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Gianduia "essentially is browser-side Cocoa (including CoreData) + WebObjects, written in JavaScript by non-js-haters," tweeted developer Wolf Rentzsch, who added that his "jaw dropped" at the demo. Rentzsch's tweets have become the main source material for today's reports about Guanduia, but nobody's mentioned that he's one of the developers of ClickToFlash, a very useful Safari add-on that keeps Flash objects from loading until you click them.
Rentzsch never said Apple was trying to replace Flash, he just said that webapp tools like SproutCore and Cappuccino would have some serious competition. However, Apple has been using Gianduia for its own web apps lately, especially the ones that plug into Apple's WebObjects. That includes a whole bunch of Apple Store features. Okay, big news, but maybe not big enough to entirely kill Flash.
If Gianduia is all JavaScript-based, is this anything new? Apple has been backing JavaScript and hating on Flash for some time now, and the news that it's developing its own JS-based solution for Rich Web Apps only seems to confirm that position. I'll freak out about Gianduia when it starts to grow outside of Apple's own (admittedly, pretty cool) webapps. It could become the next big thing, but right now, I suspect it's just a bunch of pundits riding the hype of the Flash wars.
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Subscribe to commentsScrewdriverClockMay 8th 2010 11:28PM
Wait wait wait. What happened to "Supporting HTML 5"?
EvenioMay 9th 2010 12:30AM
Developing web apps in JavaScript is hardly shunning it.
iGateMay 9th 2010 12:02AM
where can we test some of these apple webapps?
Juliana PeņaMay 9th 2010 12:25AM
This looks more like a competition to Google Web Toolkit (Java framework for building JavaScript applications) than to Flash itself. Pretty cool.
tracker1May 9th 2010 1:30AM
Honestly, I wish that adobe would return to better supporting SVG, and add in HTML5's Canvas, Flash could pretty easily be retooled to target an HTML5 browser, even an iframe package, that interacts with the main frame via flash's traditional API.
IliyanMay 9th 2010 6:34AM
Every sane (= non-Apple-fanboy) person with basic knowledge in history knows that Apple haven't invented a single piece of technology other than nice packaging. Thus, it's very hard to believe that Apple can contribute some real technology. Might happen eventually, but they're still too busy putting MP3 chips in nice shells and calling the result revolutionary...
iainMay 9th 2010 6:45AM
@Iliyan: Quartz?
IliyanMay 9th 2010 7:16AM
Yeah, Quartz is a big technology - groundbreaking, widespread, and world-turning...
NathanMay 9th 2010 1:25PM
This would be idiotic! Apple is already being looked at for further investigation for blocking competition! If they do this then it would be obvious that they are blocking competition! Come on give me a break!!!
peegeeMay 9th 2010 9:39PM
Well, if MS did this, they would be ostracized. With Apple, all is forgiven.
Keaton BrandtMay 10th 2010 9:37PM
I'm sorry, but I don't see how this is anticompetitive or proprietary or hypocritical (all things that Apple is often criticized for, and often rightly so). This isn't a user tool, this is a tool for developers. HTML5 & Javascript can, at this point, replicate almost all of the features of Adobe Flash in an open way, but it's very very hard to code for, whereas Flash is very very easy. This isn't Apple creating a new, proprietary competitor to Flash, this is Apple making the already-available open standard easier to develop for. Users will not not even notice when this is being used, it does not require any plugins, extensions, specific browsers, etc.
Also, there seems to be some confusion about what HTML5 is. HTML5 is still just a markup language for content, it does support videos and a higher level of interactivity, but to make any sort of usable app Javascript will still be required. Apple using Javascript here IS supporting HTML5, there is no hypocracy.
As a developer looking to build HTML5 apps as opposed to Flash (which has repeatedly frustrated me with it's slow and buggy nature to the point where I support Apple's seemingly insane crusade against it) I am very excited for this announcement and I feel like it's been given kind of a bad rep by being so directly compared to the Flash plugin.
AntonioMay 11th 2010 10:10AM
Looks intreting but I hope its not an apple only technology (like to code for this? then you HAVE to buy a mac).
At least Google Web Toolkit is platform agnostic. This is another attempt of apple to segregate the developer community.
sigh...
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