Adobe wants Flash on the iPad, but Apple customers don't
There's an interesting post up at Adobe's Flash Platform blog, referring to Apple's new iPad as "a broken link" because it doesn't support Flash. When the Flash elements of the New York Times website failed to load during Steve Jobs' unveiling of the iPad, the message from Apple was pretty clear: no, this thing doesn't have Flash, and no, we don't care.
It seems like a callous attitude from Apple, especially if Adobe's blog post is right that Flash accounts for 75% of the games and 70% of the video on the web.
Here's the thing, though: Apple's customers DON'T WANT FLASH. The hundreds of comments on the Adobe post are overwhelmingly from people who are dissatisfied with the way Flash performs on their Macs, and are worried that it would put the same strain on their new iPads. The same issues came up over and over in the comments: YouTube and Vimeo offer HTML5 video now, Flash games would mostly be unplayable on a touchscreen, and nobody wanted to see Flash ads anyway. Basically, users aren't going to miss it.
Is the iPad going to be remembered as the final nail in the Flash coffin, or will Adobe find some other way to get its act together and keep Flash dominant?
It seems like a callous attitude from Apple, especially if Adobe's blog post is right that Flash accounts for 75% of the games and 70% of the video on the web.
Here's the thing, though: Apple's customers DON'T WANT FLASH. The hundreds of comments on the Adobe post are overwhelmingly from people who are dissatisfied with the way Flash performs on their Macs, and are worried that it would put the same strain on their new iPads. The same issues came up over and over in the comments: YouTube and Vimeo offer HTML5 video now, Flash games would mostly be unplayable on a touchscreen, and nobody wanted to see Flash ads anyway. Basically, users aren't going to miss it.
Is the iPad going to be remembered as the final nail in the Flash coffin, or will Adobe find some other way to get its act together and keep Flash dominant?













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Subscribe to commentsr3loadedJan 29th 2010 7:53PM
Running Flash 10.1 here - what's this about "poor performance"? I remember back in the days of Flash 5/6, it ran just fine on my Pentium 200Mhz desktop..
WilJan 29th 2010 11:51PM
FLASH PLEASE... yes people still use it on websites and to just say no like the 80's did to drugs is just STUPID APPLE!!!! You know whats awesome, going to website when I'm on the go and it says download he latest version of flash to view this website. GROW UP APPLE!!!
Brian!Jan 30th 2010 3:23AM
Uh, downloadsquad. You realize you have Flash all over your site here? My lord.
HTML5 video, when it actually becomes an accepted standard might be good for progressive and streaming video. BUT there is a LOT more that Flash is good for.
But besides. Why not give me the choice? No one is saying you have to install Flash if you don't want to. You can uninstall the plugin from your computer right now you know. However, it convinces me to spend my money elsewhere when a company won't give me the choice while their competition does.
What is up with bloggers. Look, rewind back 10 years ago and Apple was cool. Open. Trying to topple the big guys. It was fun.
Now Apple is an asshole company. They do all sorts of really immoral moves and they act more like "Big Brother" than the other big computer manufactures. Yet Apple fans excuse it all away.
The fact is, if Apple had bought Macromedia then Flash would have been considered a godsend by the same Apple users who bash it now.
Finally. When HTML5 can actually fully replace Flash. Do you think, for a moment, that all the crappy Flash developers won't just make crappy HTML5 code that will, just the same, slow and crash your browser? Of course they will.
Christ. It is like when people defended Apple for not putting cut and paste on the iPhone. You realize Steve Jobs wants your money. He could care less about you. So if you don't buy an iPad until he fixes the problems, he will get right on it. If you spend your money on it today, he gets to laugh to the bank with the knowledge he, once again, sold you a product missing a number of key features that he will get to sell you with the iPad 2.0.
blogwardJan 30th 2010 6:35AM
It's not Flash I mind, it's Adobe.
ZyncJan 30th 2010 8:36AM
Long as Microsoft keep making crap browsers and bundling it with their Operating Systems, HTML will never be a standard.
Long live Flash, and burn in flame's Apple.
IsrafilJan 31st 2010 7:42AM
I've yet to see any performance issues with flash on a windows box. At the most it eats maybe 10 percent of my cpu while running hd quality video. As for apple product users not wanting flash, I own an Iphone, I want flash, this statement is false.
Also it seems noone has yet touched on the real beauty of flash, the flv format. Filesize:quality is (IMO) much better with FLV than h264. (although admittedly MKV is better than both)
Qualifications:BS, Digital entertainment and Game Design
IvanFeb 1st 2010 12:59PM
If you don't support flash, more development is driven towards the 'apps' ... its an anti-competitive practice in reality
MikeFeb 4th 2010 11:18PM
The title of this article is misleading. I'm sure Apple customers want Flash on their IPad. This is a false assumption. It's okay regardless.. life goes just fine without Apple products in one's life.
SalamanderFeb 24th 2010 9:21PM
This is the most outrageous title possible for an article.
I am Apple user, as well as an iPhone 3G S owner (as well as iPhone v1). I'd love to purchase the iPad. But without Flash, it's no deal for me.
Flash is everywhere! Half the web is Flash. A major reason I don't really browse for fun on my iPhone, is that it doesn't have Flash.
In fact, even though I love my iPhone, I will probably end up with a Nexus One or whatever cool Android comes along in the next few months, mostly because I want Flash when I browse.
oh and if there is a tablet version of the Nexus One, I'd be all over it...
So yeah, Apple customers like me WANT FLASH! And we are the majority.