8 years late: Microsoft finally pushes users to upgrade from IE6

For 8 years, a vast percentage of the Internet's user base have been accruing malware and useless toolbars. Today, even after the invention of Firefox, Safari and Chrome, and the updates of Internet Explorer 7 and 8, a full TWENTY THREE PERCENT of the Internet still uses IE6!
23%! And Microsoft are to blame! History took a turn for the worse when IE6 was fatefully included as the default browser in Windows XP. Couple in the fact that it was made available for both Windows 95 and 98, and the huge number of Internet and corporate Intranet web apps that were developed in the past decade with only IE6 compatibility in mind... and you can see why IE6 and its antiquated, creaking, non-standard and insecure rendering engine still reigns supreme.
But that's all about to change. Hopefully. Microsoft is now advertising their IE8 browser as a direct competitor to its grunting, hairy-hobo, spyware-ridden predecessor. Touting better security and neat new features like Web Slices, Microsoft are hoping to shift those steadfast 23% to their new browser.
It won't work of course. Most of those IE6 users are enterprise or corporate users that are tied down due bespoke software or useless IT directors. It's not like Microsoft can force IE6 to update automatically. But it sure is nice to see them making an effort.
[via CNET]












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Subscribe to commentsphezJan 8th 2010 1:18PM
And I assume you magically forgive yourself for having to work with the rendering differences between webkit and gecko based browsers because the apps based around these engines are superior to IE in general?
Right.
And yes, if it isn't obvious to you yet, I am more like a "person like you" rather than a "person using IE6". Because if you really think about it, who still uses IE6? Why do they still use IE6? What reason must there be that computers still run IE6? Think about that before becoming, ahem, sensationalist. re: my original post.
DavidDec 1st 2009 9:53AM
"August 27, 2001 - Internet Explorer 6 launches. The entire Internet (minus the three Opera users) adopts the new-and-shiny Microsoft browser."
No, the exact same thing that's happening now between IE6 and IE8 happened on August 27, 2001, except it was IE4 and IE6 (have you forgotten about IE4 so quickly?). IE4 was predominant because it was the default web browser that shipped with Windows 98. IE6 is still significant because it is the default web browser that shipped with Windows XP and Windows XP still has a significant installed base.
This situation will continue to occur as the most recent version of IE is newer than the default web browser of an older Windows operating system that still has a significant installed base.
Microsoft wants everyone to upgrade to the latest version of IE and does not want to continue supporting previous version such as IE6 due to increased support and compatibility overheads, however Microsoft publish a clear and well documented product lifecycle to give businesses certainty regarding the availability and support of products they release. This certainty is important to certain businesses so that if they invest in developing a custom application that relies on a particular technology, the business knows that Microsoft will guarantee that technology will be available and supported for a specified time frame as detailed in its product lifecycle. Imagine investing developing a custom application that relies on a particular technology only to have the vendor simply change its mind and change direction.
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselectintmsn
Apple announced at a previous WWDC that it will allow carbon application to go 64-bit, and the following year, Apple changed its mind and said only cocoa applications will have access to 64-bit. This screwed Adobe over who was relying on the 64-bit extensions to carbon to get CS4 64-bit on Mac OS X. After Apple's backflip, Adobe had to release CS4 on the Mac as 32-bit only, otherwise Adobe would have had to delay CS4 to rewrite in cocoa to get 64-bit versions. This put Adobe one year behind in it's 64-bit conversion. That type of uncertainty is pretty unpalatable for businesses.
While I don't personally support the use of IE6 in 2009 where unnecessary, I do support Microsoft publishing and supporting a clearly documented product lifecycle.
Sebastian AnthonyDec 1st 2009 9:58AM
Thanks for the comment!
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-gb&x=10&y=14&p1=2073 -- I can't even see a scheduled retirement plan for IE6? But maybe I am looking in the wrong place.
I haven't forgotten IE4. But the problem was Vista, I guess -- it wasn't adopted, so everyone stuck with XP and IE6.
No doubt we will see a shift towards IE8 with Windows 7's popularity. But again, those office workers stuck with Windows XP... they won't be seeing IE8 for a while I think :)
ArnieDec 1st 2009 10:53AM
I work for a Fortune 500 company. I am still forced to use & develop for IE6. Although luckily I code in Java mainly & dont deal a lot with HTML & front end, I did have to actually make stuff IE6 compatible. Almost all our internal websites look horrible on any other browser. It would cost a lot of money to 'upgrade' to IE8 as most of websites would have to re-tweaked & HTML corrected to fit standards which in my short experience will never happen as people who hand out the money look at it in a very simple way, can I surf the sites I want to with IE6, if the answer is yes then we dont need to upgrade.
cmsb55Dec 1st 2009 12:43PM
You say that MS is to blame for the high percentage of people using IE6 but later in the article, you say that IT environments are to blame since they will never update no matter what MS does. I don't see how you could blame people not updating their software on MS in the first place anyway.
Sebastian AnthonyDec 1st 2009 12:47PM
Because they made XP so popular and Vista so unpopular...!
ObviousDec 1st 2009 3:14PM
Sebastian, I agree with cmsb55... You contradict yourself pretty readily in this article. Why don't you point your scorn at the actual culprits? Do you think that Microsoft wouldn't be equally (if not more, and litigiously so) decried for forcing an update?
As for "popularity", do you think Microsoft tried to make Vista unpopular? Ever written a piece of software that had some fledgling driver issues only to have an entire user base pan your product because of factors unforeseen with your initial release?
Also, when it comes to your gripe with IE6 (which I completely understand and agree with), have you seen exactly how standards based the new "standards based" browsers are? The fundamental issue of everyone's interpretation of standards will leave "quirks mode" in the standard web developer lexicon for quite awhile.
octoberasianDec 1st 2009 2:11PM
Now... if they can only make Internet Explorer 8 MORE FRIGGIN' COMPATIBLE with web standards.
My Distance Education website for online courses in ITT Technical Institute will not run in IE8 and I have to set it to Compatibilty mode. It runs in Firefox with a few issues, and of course works in Chrome. But, IE8? It hates it, it won't even load after logging in.
Anyway, god, I hated the fact that IE6 had to force web designers to make websites compliant to that dreadful web browser. I remember having to make two sets of web sites-- one for IE6 and another for Netscape, which I used more often. However, because of IE6, majority of the websites at that time (before Firefox came into full force), would only run on IE6 or higher because Microsoft and their greedy ways wanted everyone to follow their own godforsaken Java and HTML implementations.
Chris WoodDec 1st 2009 3:07PM
I get *so* frustrated with the anti-IE6 argument (as presented in the main article)..
If this was any other area of business, I think the ludicrous nature of the criticism would be more obvious. For example..
"Volkwagen launches the 1980 model Golf. For 29 years, people have been having to drive around in these things, without rear parking sensors, airbags, sat nav or power brakes.
And Volkswagen are to blame! All these people for some reason can't spare the money to invest in newer models....."
Nothing is cutting edge for ever, and IE6 isn't today. But at the time it was a different matter. And sometimes businesses can't afford to upgrade business workstations.
This is the real world; not one of Microsoft's making.
CornellDec 1st 2009 10:19PM
RE: "It's not like Microsoft can force IE6 to update automatically."
Why can't it do so? Why can't it insert in a Windows update, one that once loaded automatically updates IE6 to IE 8 the next time that IE is accessed?
Sebastian AnthonyDec 2nd 2009 6:49AM
I think IE6 simply doesn't have an auto-updater built-in, like Firefox or Chrome.
(Even then, I bet most IE6 machines are on group policies that don't allow them to be updated... as other commenters have said, Microsoft have an obligation to all those big companies that have developed big apps that run in IE6!)
Gardiner WestboundDec 1st 2009 11:38PM
I have used Firefox since it was called Phoenix. I still have IE6 on my computer because, to the best of my knowledge, it cannot be uninstalled. If Microsoft will supply an IE6 uninstaller I will happily give it the heave-ho.
Travis BjorklundDec 2nd 2009 12:33AM
The pic is missing the daemon tools toolbar. It's so friggin annoying!
GregDec 2nd 2009 12:44AM
Never used IE6, or any other IE, as a primary browser. Stuck with Netscape 4.6/4.7 until the Mozilla suite became usable. And I didn't do this out of hate for Microsoft, just dislike of IE. (I repeatedly complained to friends who work at Microsoft that the company had abandoned IE6, because I wanted it to be a better browser that I would use)
MiquelDec 2nd 2009 4:21AM
I'm generally seeing about 10%-12.5% of users on IE6. Even this African blogging portal I'm part of the team on and has the majority of its users in Africa on admittedly older machines is at most about 15%. I completely and to no end agree with you that there are far, far too many users on IE6 still and it sucks, but where did you get the 23% figure? I get my stats from these two sources as well as my own logs:
http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
-miquel
http://subsaharska.com
Sebastian AnthonyDec 2nd 2009 6:48AM
I thought 23% sounded too high as well -- I was just quoting the figure from the CNET article. I'm afraid I don't have another source.
Again, I expect it's calculated from offices and the like, or some 'survey' rather than log parsing.
moiretheDec 2nd 2009 4:56PM
Like you said, alot of corporations are the reason for that high percentage. I know my old workplace was. That's why I'd use portable Firefox whenever I had the chance. On the downside, I couldn't access my HR portal from home unless it was from an Internet Explorer browser, which I don't like to use. Firefox and Google Chrome all the way :)
RonnieDec 9th 2009 12:40PM
IE 6 was a decent browser back in the day. It's not that great now do to the changes in the internet..i.e. all them stupid hacker people!!! malware, adware, etc. The reason the number of current IE 6 users is a number at all, is probably also due to the fact that most companies are still using XP. Because honestly, VISTA SIMPLY SUX!!! So you install a new users pc with XP that is packed with IE 6. Lazy IT people do not upgrade the browser. And honestly IE 8 SUX!!! Half of the websites I use will not work with IE 8. I remove it off of any pc I come into contact with that has it. And it gets it AUTOMATICALLY through WINDOWS UPDATES. So you have a few choices, leave the pc on IE 6, upgrade to IE7 (hello, IE 7 is great. works with every single website that I have ever come across, looks better, better security, etc etc) or use something like Firefox, chrome, blah blah. But that takes effort on the Tech's part to actually upgrade to a different browser. And on the note of secure browsing, it's a combination of smart browsing, good browser, and most importantly a good firewall, and good AV, Adaware malware removal suite. Even on firefox, chrome IE 8 7 4 whatever, you have to have a good firewall and av removal and spyware removal suite to keep your browser from being jacked.
Nat DarkeJan 8th 2010 1:05PM
IE8 is a good browser. The reason some sites don't work in IE8 is because those sites were released before IE8, so they could not be tested. IE7 is not as good but it 'works' for you because developers test in IE7 and work around its bugs. IE8 has very few bugs but people don't always write 'good' code.