Dear Microsoft, please keep your lousy mitts off my Firefox install

So what gives, Redmond? Why - especially after the fallout from the last incident - would you go and push a Windows Presentation Foundation plugin on my Firefox install? I didn't ask for it, and I don't really want it. Plenty of people consider software that installs in this kind of underhanded way to be malware.
Not to mention a security risk. You know, the same way you (Microsoft) consider Google's Chrome Frame to be a security risk for your own browser. I'll need someone to explain to me how MS figures the situation is different when the shoe is on the other foot.
I'll clear something up for you right now - and this goes for all software companies, not just Microsoft. I expect control over what gets installed on my system and what doesn't. Go ahead and offer me updates, add-ons, and plugins. But please, give me the choice to install.
Heck, I can choose to put off Windows updates forever if I want and some of those are pretty critical patches. So why should I not be given the choice to opt out of something as trifling as a WPF plugin for my non-IE browser?
Get your filthy hands off my browser, you damn, dirty ape!













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Subscribe to commentsLight SpeedOct 18th 2009 2:31AM
"Plenty of people consider software that installs in this kind of underhanded way to be malware"
noone considers a microsoft security update to be malware except you, fanboy.
Lee MathewsOct 18th 2009 6:05AM
No?
http://www.osnews.com/story/22358/Silent_Install_Firefox_Plugin_Backfires_on_Microsoft
notcoolOct 18th 2009 5:51AM
For those of you using Firefox, here is a guide on how to remove Microsoft .NET Framework Assistant firefox extension. Apparently it is a security vulnerability.
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article08-600
But in step 10 instead of deleting just the DotNetAssistantExtension folder you need to delete the Windows Presentation Foundation script as well (don't remember the actual file name), since that is the script for the plugin in question here.
AndrewOct 18th 2009 10:17AM
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
From a developer's perspective, you want the client to have the same experience, regardless of browser - this is true, even for plugin scenarios.
I am sure you'd love it if every time you happened to be in Safari and went to YouTube you had to switch over to Firefox or IE to watch it. Better yet, every time you go to a site you have to go and search out and install the plugin for the site. We're a long way from straight HTML/CSS/Javascript and plugins are an (unfortunate) reality of the web right now.
So let's all suck it up and realize that Microsoft has hundreds of millions of customers (some of which pay), and that they try please as many of those customers as possible with their decisions.
It also might be useful to understand the following before throwing stones at companies for installing plugins:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPAPI
BarkingGhostOct 18th 2009 11:13AM
I was surprised that Microsoft found it necessary to malware-install these components instead of simply asking for permission. Just goes to show that Microsoft will stoop to new lows in order to piss people off.
SilverWaveOct 18th 2009 1:40PM
@polobunny
>But go ahead, try and push Linux on everyone out there.
*Nope*
Reread my post.
I only recommend Ubuntu Linux to my friends, I didn't recommend it to you.
1. I don't know you.
2. You seem to be happy with windows.
So...
You're happy to use windows.
I'm happy for you to use windows (You're another "Target" for the windows malware authors).
From my point of view this is win\win
:-)
NeoprimalOct 18th 2009 1:55PM
Would you guys take a look in your plug in list and let me know exactly which one of those things you installed yourself?
The plugins are firefox counterparts of other pieces of software installed on the system. Programs that often need browser access or that need to be accessed from the browser if said browser is the default, install little bits of themselves info FF.
It's not a huge conspiracy theory by any means. In this case, it's suspect becuase it's being done by the OS update....but we tend to forget that the maker of IE is the maker of our OS, or maybe the problem is that we relate them too heavily? Either way, it's not a huge deal for the fact that companies do this, the problem is when the plugin causes a hole in FF, and apparently that's where the issue is with this plugin.
So if you're going to get angry or bitch about this, at least get angry for the right reason.
And for the person talking about Linux being run by users an users being run by Windows - go check out FF in Linux, chances are if you use it for any amount of time, it will be full of plugins that you didn't have knowledge about either.
SilverWaveOct 18th 2009 2:21PM
>And for the person talking about Linux ... go check out FF in Linux, ... it will be full of plugins...
*Nope*
Using "MR Tech Toolkit":
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090910 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Shiretoko/3.5.3
Build ID: 20090902172550
Enabled Extensions: [30]
Disabled Extensions: [3]
Total Extensions: 33
Installed Themes: [1]
Installed Plugins: (12)
- Default Plugin
- Demo Print Plugin for unix/linux
- DivX® Web Player
- mplayerplug-in 3.55
- QuickTime Plug-in 7.2.0
- QuickTime Plug-in 7.4.5
- RealPlayer 9
- Shockwave Flash
- VLC Multimedia Plugin (compatible Totem 2.26.1)
- VMware Remote Console Plug-in
- Windows Media Player Plug-in
- Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)
So no problems there.
Canonical did have what I considered to be a problematic extension ,Multisearch, in the alpha of the upcoming 9.10 release but that was pulled rather sharpish.
DeadlYRageOct 19th 2009 1:49AM
Want to stay on topic, but it is hard. grr He even wants to tax the internet! There! o.0 Grrr Out of respect for DS, I will not post about Obama's incompetents any longer!:)>
DonOct 19th 2009 12:54PM
FYI there are guides to unistall this, I've included a link to the guide on ghacks.net.
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/10/18/how-to-uninstall-windows-presentation-foundation-plugin-in-firefox/
It is pretty lame that this was snuck in, the plugin plays havoc with firefox all the time.
TomNicklesOct 21st 2009 8:40AM
Ha Ha! I got a message from my firefox when I started it today saying that Presentation slows it down so I should disable it! I thought that funny