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(Unverified)Jun 17th 2009 3:20PM
I don't understand half the fuss. The Opera proxy is only there so that people don't have to bother messing with their ports. This is not just for geeks.(Its like damned if you do and damned if you don't). If you want to avoid it, act geeky . Use your own domain , point it to your ip :port 8840 .(Make sure the ports are open.) . Say Congrats to yourself. You have eliminated the middleman. Yeah u can change the port in the config if you wish.
I agree with you on security. Every Web server has had some security issues.
I also agree that this has little use because of the need to keep the browser open and because of poor upload speeds.
(Unverified)Jun 17th 2009 3:45PM
Lee , you should at least have read the FAQ?
"Where is the Opera Unite technology placed?
Opera Unite technology resides in the Opera browser. No data is stored on servers outside your control. For connections, if UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) is not available, some server-side Opera technology will aid in establishing a connection between users."
"What does "UPnP" mean and what does this option do?
"UPnP" means Universal Plug and Play, which allows you to share your data using direct connections to your computer, if available. This can make loading speeds for your services faster, as they will bypass the proxy server. However, as it is up to each service to load content using the direct connection, it may not always run services faster. UPnP has no authentication mechanism, and assumes that local systems and their users are completely trustworthy. If you are unsure about using UPnP, or do not wish to use it, you can disable it by unchecking this option. If you don't want to use UPnP but still allow a direct connection, you can manually forward port 8840 from your router."
leeJun 17th 2009 3:46PM
Is this with regards to the lack of encryption? If not, please clarify.
My issue was with the data being passed from point to point wide open. I didn't think data was being stored on Opera's servers.
(Unverified)Jun 17th 2009 3:58PM
No Lee I was replying to this :
"Continuing on that theme, I don't like that all Unite data must pass through Opera's proxy server. It has to if they want to be able to police content, of course. But that kind of blows the whole "reclaim your independence from servers" assertion out of the water."
Regarding encryption ,lets give it time and see if it develops.
leeJun 17th 2009 3:59PM
Ahh, gotcha.
Thanks for clarifying that it's used to establish a point-to-point connection - but it's still not "independence," is it?
(Unverified)Jun 17th 2009 4:10PM
The main point here is that the Opera proxy is not even the default option. Its only when it fails to establish UPnP that the opera proxy kicks in.
Now Lee, I feel that you should apologize for this rather hateful article here.
Criticism is okay, but this article shows rather awful one-sidedness.
leeJun 17th 2009 4:13PM
Hateful? Oh wow.
I gotta brush up on my sensitivity training. I thought hate was a very, very strong emotion.
Does this article read like hate, too? http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/16/thoughts-on-opera-unite/
These are 5 dislikes I have with a piece of Alpha software. /end
(Unverified)Jun 17th 2009 5:56PM
That's why we're commenting on DLS, not some joe site. Oh well, when a man feels he's big enough, he can talk anything, and drive people away from the site.
(Unverified)Jun 20th 2009 7:44AM
@Lee Mathews
"Does this article read like hate, too"
Actually, yes. Yes it does. It contains the same lie that all traffic passes through Opera.
The article you are linking to was written in rage:
http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/show.dml/3725574#comment8860050
He was angry with all the hype Unite was getting. He was angry about how people just repeated Opera's claims blindly. Kind of like you are blindly referring to his blog post even though it turns out that the post is too inaccurate to really be used for anything.
You really should read some of the comments on the page you are linking to, in order to see people correcting all the misconceptions. For example the misconception that everything goes through a proxy, as you claim it does.
Chris's comments where fun until Haavard took him down a notch on his own blog, resulting in Chris himself posting on Haavard's blog with a massively different tone.