Ask DLS: what do you think about Opera Unite 24 hours later?

For once, Opera did a good job of marketing their browser. They managed to keep us all (mostly) in the dark about how they planned on reinventing the web, build a decent amount of hype, and finally sprung Unite on us yesterday.
It was built up as a "democratization" of the web because you own your data and Unite gives you a way to declare your independence from cloud-based services.
I don't know about you, but the luster wore off pretty quickly for me. Here's why:
It was built up as a "democratization" of the web because you own your data and Unite gives you a way to declare your independence from cloud-based services.
I don't know about you, but the luster wore off pretty quickly for me. Here's why:
- I don't like parts of the EULA very much. Specifically, this one:
"...we have the right to refuse to post, edit, or deliver submitted User Generated Content. We reserve the right to remove User Generated Content for any reason, but we are not responsible for any failure or delay in removing such material. We reserve the right to block any user's access to any content, web site or web page in our sole discretion. Opera Software ASA reserves the right to terminate your account if you use your account privileges to unlawfully transmit copyrighted material without a license, valid defense or fair use privilege to do so...Opera Software ASA may at it's discretion, block certain web sites or domains and re-route you to other pages. By accepting these Terms of Use, You hereby consent to this."
That file sharing function? Don't point it at your MP3 collection. Furthermore, how un-Democratic is that? Unite is supposed to free you from the cloud, but Opera gets to hold their finger over the red button?
- Continuing on that theme, I don't like that all Unite data must pass through Opera's proxy server. It has to if they want to be able to police content, of course. But that kind of blows the whole "reclaim your independence from servers" assertion out of the water.
- In a discussion with CNet, an Opera spokesperson said "Be a bit cautious." Why? There's no encryption. Does it pose a risk? Not really, says Opera. When she was asked if the platform could be used by an unauthorized person to access data on a machine running Unite, the response was "Definitely not -- unless they're a hacker." Uh, wait...So does it pose a risk or not?
- Ironically, Opera's demo features don't even adhere to their own rules. Example: "The service must not have obvious bugs, so ensure that you test it before uploading[...]The service should serve standards-compliant HTML pages that are viewable in all modern browsers on a variety of devices."
So why couldn't I get the media player to work in Firefox?
- I don't want to share directly from my machine. With my ISP, uploading seriously chokes my bandwidth. Someone else wants to serve my files for me for free? Great, sign me up! Other apps I've been using for ages make sharing photos and streaming my music so simple that Unite's function really isn't an advantage.
What's your take?












Comments
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Subscribe to commentsMatsJun 17th 2009 8:22PM
All I can say is: we'll see. It's still a beta, so give it some time.
A reinvention of the web? No. A nifty feature, yes.
I think I'll use it every now and then for sharing stuff, or accessing files remotely in an easy way.
Basically; you're a bit fast on the draw. Opera is a very good browser, and they like innovation; give them some room to breath.
[insert anything here]Jun 17th 2009 9:09PM
I really liked the new Unite features, until now. I gotta read the EULA's more often, though to be fair, the mandatory login to use it threw me off right away.
Also, Lee, do yourself a favour, and ignore cooltaj. I thought I've seen it all with fanboyism; consoles, brand-ers, transformers, star wars, star trek, rappers, etc. I have NEVER expected fanboys to argue over effin browsers! Probably because, *gasp*, you can install all three of the main ones! And others!
And cooltaj, the fact alone that firefox is open source and opera is not (correct me if I am wrong, it's been a while) is comfort enough for me, since anyone can examine the code for privacy and security holes. There is a reason why firefox has a following: they are up-front about it, and they do quality work.
Also, lets at least acknowledge a simple fact. 99.9 percent of the users will share copyrighted material over Unite features. That's the point of these things! Again, not to pirate, not to steal, but to let their friends hear the music they are passionate about, to share their joy. But the bloody RIAA doesn't have a clue! They don't understand that if I were to hear a song in this way and like it, I would go buy the album! I would!! I am sick and tired of them treating every customer as a potential pirate! If anything, it's their blatant disregard for fellow man that made me buy only used cds, dvds, blu-rays, and vinyl (yes I buy vinyl, got my turn table three months ago). I would rather my money go to the shop-keep, than the record labels.
Reading over the last post... Cooltaj.. you are so misinformed I am actually imagining all sorts of theories about you being a brilliant marketer for some competitor. Appearing to defend opera but spewing nonesense to such a degree that it transcends into the realm of existentialism. Can *any* service be trusted? Can the internet, itself, be trusted? Is the internet a metaphor for the human condition? Will we even know the answers?
Yes, gmail actually has encryption, specifically in the sense of "https". Go to the login url and look at the url. It literally says: https://www.google.com/accounts/Servi... Note the "s" at the end of the "http". And please, before you reply saying that you're "all that" and i'm not, look up what https actually does, will ya?
Don't hate... educate!
plingsJun 20th 2009 7:18AM
Open source is pretty much irrelevant. And Firefox had more security holes than even IE in 2008.
plingsJun 20th 2009 7:35AM
1. The EULA is just a standard EULA you see everywhere.
2. The login isn't mandatory (and besides, the only reason for the login is to give you an easy to remember hostname)
SeanJun 17th 2009 9:36PM
Wow Cooltaj really needs to sit down and have a cookie with milk... Opera Unite isn't that groundbreaking or revolutionary. And there are easier ways to host your own little media server like using HFS (HTTP File Server) which is one small executable. All you need to do is forward a port (which is easy if you go to portforward.com) and you can drag 'n' drop any needed files into the pane and TADA! They're online.
plingsJun 20th 2009 7:19AM
Right, as if your grandma is going to set up HFS. Suuuure. And how do you set up a chat, music streaming and other things with HFS? And can you download even more services and install them with a single click?
SeanJun 20th 2009 2:08PM
Dude... My grandma uses a Mac.
propellerhead4Jun 18th 2009 12:13AM
i have used almost all the gui browsers from galeon to ie8, but none of them have the feeling of firefox when browsing the web.
this opera looks cool, but nothing can stop me from using firefox because it is THE one and ONLY true web browser so far.
Pallab DeJun 18th 2009 1:58AM
Responding to Unite misconceptions
There...read that. That should clear up your misconceptions (if indeed they are just genuine misconceptions).
Pallab DeJun 18th 2009 2:01AM
Oh great..my hyperlink is gone..making my post look totally useless.
Here is the link again : http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/show.dml/3725574
balvedaJun 18th 2009 5:11AM
One definite point why Opera sucks -> No smart-card support - so, it's a useless browser for people doing e-banking, voting, paying taxes etc.
plingsJun 20th 2009 7:14AM
@balveda
"One definite point why Opera sucks -> No smart-card support - so, it's useless browser for people doing e-banking, voting, paying taxes etc."
Funny, I'm doing e-banking, voting and paying taxes just fine.
balvedaJun 25th 2009 4:46AM
@plings
you're doing all that using a smart-card? please tell me how.
Until your solution arrives:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=156020
Samuel CorradiJun 18th 2009 1:06PM
This is a new plataform: server/server.
Where all computers is clients and servers in the same time.
plingsJun 20th 2009 7:19AM
test
DapxinJun 20th 2009 10:29AM
test