Ubuntu Hardy: The latest and greatest or a total mess?
Ubuntu has become so popular, so quickly, that it is almost synonymous with the word "Linux". Common wisdom holds that it is the easiest to use, simplest, and most stable Linux based OS out there, and that it is the best hope for "Linux on the Desktop". This reputation is a well earned one, but after trying out the latest beta of Ubuntu Hardy, due out this April, I can't help but wonder if they are getting a little careless. More on this after the jump.
My laptop specs are as follows:
Dell Latitude 640
Pentium 4 @ 1.8 ghz
768 MB RAM
160 GB Western Digital IDE Hard Disk
ATI Radeon Mobility 7500
Intel 802.11b/g wireless
LITE-ON DVD-RW USB 2.0 drive
Ubuntu comes loaded with a spiffy update manager that is capable of cleanly upgrading to a new release, which intelligently removes conflicting or obsolete packages. It took about two and a half hours, but everything seemed to install intelligently and efficiently. I was pleased to find that none of my packages were broken, and I couldn't help but notice some cool new features.
The Nautilus file manager now supports the Windows icon standard, so if you insert, say, the Diablo II play disc, it actually shows the Diablo icon for the CD instead of just a picture of a CD. It also supports CD "autorun" files, which means that if you have WINE installed, Windows application CDs will launch just as they do in Windows. Don't worry though, it warns you first. There are also several other enhancements that a help make it feel like a more professional and user friendly environment, such as helpful popup notifications and a refined file progress dialog.
It disturbed me that crash reports popped up when I first logged in, but I figured that this was just the last remnants of Gutsy getting cleared up. I was wrong. I've been using this for about a week now, and random crashes are the norm. It's never been anything as dire as a kernel panic, just segfaults in some of the Gnome applets, but it's still troubling. Now, I know people are going to point out that this beta isn't meant for daily use, but that just doesn't cut the mustard.
Then there's Firefox. Not only is Firefox 3 still incompatible with Blogsmith, but every single time I launched it, I had to uncheck offline mode in the file menu. That got old REALLY fast. I'm as excited about Firefox 3 as the next guy, but including it as the default browser is a real mistake. To add insult to injury, the default fonts in Firefox 3 are a complete eyesore, assaulting the user with huge bold letters every time one enters something in the address bar. I've used betas of Ubuntu ever since Dapper, on a Powerbook G3 no less, and never had any problems like this.
Betas are supposed to be finished products going through last minute testing. This is clearly a late alpha, not a beta. They haven't even finished implementing Pulse Audio yet! None of the system sounds work, and there is no way to control the volume of individual apps yet. Would you let people start test driving your car when all the tires aren't even bolted on yet? This is what I feel like when using Hardy beta. Sure it runs, but I'm driving on the rims, and sparks are flying everywhere!
I think there are bigger problems here than early adopters getting burned. I've seen a real lack of quality control ever since Dapper Drake came out. That release was hard as a rock, had all the modern features I needed, especially NetworkManager. Even though I was happy with Gutsy, I had to do geeky tweaks just to get it to boot properly, because the default framebuffer settings were wrong, and so all I got was a black screen. Compared to Dapper which "just worked" from a fresh install, this is disconcerting. Can I feel confident giving a laymen an Ubuntu CD and telling him or her to check it out? The answer used to be yes, but now I'm not so sure.
Ubuntu has had a remarkable, larger than life rise to fame. It has taken Red Hat's now abandoned throne as the distro that the uninformed consumer perceives as "THE" Linux. Most people have a hard time understanding that there are hundreds of Linuxes, and just assume the most talked about one is the official version. With adoption at a steady climb, Ubuntu's popularity and visibility is a huge boon to Linux as a whole. It would be a damn shame if the community dropped the ball at such a crucial time. Hardy is supposed to be an LTS release, meaning it will be the new gold standard for stability and support. Let's hope that Canonical and the Ubuntu community don't make the same mistake Microsoft made with Vista and rush this thing out, or else it will be a blow to not just them, but the entire open source community.













Comments
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Subscribe to commentsstopsatgreenApr 1st 2008 11:22AM
"Now, I know people are going to point out that this beta isn't meant for daily use, but that just doesn't cut the mustard." - Why not? If the development team say this isn't yet ready for use on production machines, why do you insist it should be?
It's pre-release software that is available for testing and providing feedback. The first release candidate will be out on April 17th, so at that point your criticisms would be justified. Until then, report any bugs you find and you'll help the whole process.
LaydrosApr 1st 2008 11:33AM
Happy April Fools Day?
I couldn't tell if this was serious or a joke. I would have been sure it was a joke if osnews hadn't published some similar comments. When I tried it myself I didn't have a lot of stability trouble, just a bit of a disappointment as to how much progress in the distro has slowed. I know this is an LTS, but there haven't been many big new features in a while. There are some cool features from the included software like firefox and Gnome, but not much that Ubuntu is adding. Let's hope the last commentter is right and when the RC's come out we find that we have a really solid LTS release this time around.
keevesApr 1st 2008 11:41AM
What exactly is wrong with including the beta of firefox 3? You are using a beta operating system, designed for testing, so the fact that it doesn't include the final version of one of programs is no big shock / worry!
JasonApr 1st 2008 11:42AM
Have you ran the updater recently? I used to have some of the problems you are talking about, but they have since been fixed by updates. I very rarely see any bugs now. I've been using the Hardy beta since the day it came out. I am extremely confident that the Ubuntu team is not going to pull a Vista on us.
freaktechApr 1st 2008 12:25PM
I think you need to learn the difference between beta and Release Candidate. If this were a RC then you complaints would make since, but this is a beta and as such will have bugs and not be complete.
julianApr 1st 2008 1:08PM
dont compare the ubuntu community or canonical with microsoft
even if the final version was buggy
Ubuntu has to come out twice a year its not like they can rush things .. it just happens
and people could just wait 6 months and get intrepid ibex
... how long do you have to wait for a new microsoft os... from 2 to 4 years
betttttaaaaaa
Ian DumychApr 1st 2008 1:00PM
Sorry guys, this is NOT an April fool's joke. I started working on this story several days ago.
It is true I have not run the software update since I upgraded. I have switched back to Gutsy for the time being, but I will try the Beta again soon.
KutjaraApr 3rd 2008 7:19AM
You haven't run any updates? It might surprise you to know there are regularly over twenty (and often over thirty) updates for Hardy beta every day. If you'd bothered to participate in the beta process rather than simply setting up a straw man to complain about, you might have noticed significant improvements in many areas of the system over even a few days.
My experience with Hardy has been the polar opposite of yours. I installed it on a very lowend laptop (Acer Aspire 4315), and found to my surprised and delight that everything worked out of the box (with the exception of wifi which needed a bit of help from madwifi). Compiz-Fusion works beautifully. Firefox 3 works beautifully. Sound is great (even without Pulse Audio). As far as I'm concerned, this distro is ready now.
Of course, I know it isn't ready now, because there are a million varieties of computers other than mine, and I've just been lucky that my little Acer is in the sweet spot for this distro. Lord knows I've had nightmares with Linux on other lappys over the years.
Your analogy of test driving a car with no tires is fatuous. It's more like test driving a car with no radio. You can still see what the car does, you just don't get a soundtrack to go along with it.
kyleApr 1st 2008 1:07PM
april fools? i've been using hardy for the last three days, and it's been rock solid. not a single problem so far. no crash reports, no crashes, no bugs. and incredibly efficient. yesterday i was running netbeans, eclipse, java ee server, and over 100 firefox tabs and rythmbox. not a single hiccup, the system didn't slow at all. i love my ubunutu.
i did a clean install though. maybe there are still some lingering problems in the update process.
JaimeApr 1st 2008 6:43PM
just curious, but what are your pcs specs?
kyleApr 2nd 2008 12:39AM
pretty decent - c2d e4300@2.88ghz, 4gb ddr2@960mhz 5-5-5-15. but neither xp or vista can stand up to that kind of multitasking like linux does.
HuwApr 1st 2008 1:18PM
"Now, I know people are going to point out that this beta isn't meant for daily use, but that just doesn't cut the mustard."
Yes, actually it does. Beta doesn't mean in Linux what it means to, say, Google. Beta is unfinished, buggy, and only released so that the community can help debug. A beta release of Ubuntu is absolutely *not* meant for daily use, end of story.
It's still a few weeks until the final release. Do you realise how much work will go into 8.04 between now and then? I'll bet you a fiver that the final release will be rock solid. So nur. :p
JackApr 1st 2008 1:25PM
Interesting your criticism of Firefox 3.
That is one of my favourite new additions to Hardy (despite not being a core Ubuntu program), it is blazing fast, low memory usage and the new address bar is genius -- how could it not be widely implemented before?
kyleApr 2nd 2008 12:42AM
the new address bar is nearly identical to the tab completion behaviour in the vimperator extension. maybe not "widely implemented", but not brand new.
ErikApr 1st 2008 2:22PM
After all the good news about Ubuntu I installed the Beta.
It works but on a low end laptop windowsXP is quicker.
My OmniBook 6000 (PIII 700Mhz, 384MB end 20GB 5400rpm).
So if this is the norm it will back in XP land in no-time!!
Nathan RichApr 1st 2008 3:38PM
I don't think you have a valid case there, sir:
Of course your older Windows XP is going to run faster, its an older OS. You are installing the "Latest and Greatest" onto a legacy machine...A bit akin to trying to install XP on a machine meant for Win95...
alex summerApr 2nd 2008 12:52PM
Quicker??? what the hell? There must be a config issue with your distro installation because there is NOO way windows xp can be quicker than a fresh ubuntu install ... even my freshly installed xp is slower than almost any linux fresh install i've maid before (ubuntu, mint, fedora) etc..
ErikApr 2nd 2008 1:53PM
Yes, XP is a lot quicker, it was running on the old 4200rpm 6GB disk.
In Ubuntu I had first to stop a evolution process eating away my cpu cycles before after that it became a bit usefull.
I did nothing special just installed the Beta, configured the wireless network and go...
After the latest updates were run there was a new process manager and it tells me that just running Ubuntu and doing nothing eats away ~30% cpu cycles.
And to the previous poster, XP is older but with all the updates it is essentially Windows 2003.
Did anyone else try to run Ubuntu on older hardware??
Any clues what it is doing??
Kevin ArchibaldApr 1st 2008 2:43PM
If you think i'm going to buy you a pizza for that review, you are sadly mistaken.
bruce aldridgeApr 1st 2008 4:21PM
I've recently upgraded from gutsy to hardy beta,
I've had a few problems, but no deal breakers,
I've been running firefox3 for ages, no problems.
I've also had quite a few crashes (in two seperate packages) ... one has just been fixed this morning, and the other is being worked on.
try it again once its actually released, And it'd be nice to see a retract when you do :)