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Adobe says no way to Vista updates
Current versions of many Adobe products won't run flawlessly under Windows Vista, this announcement only confirms that they never will. So, if you're a creative professional (who hasn't already jumped ship to OS X) start getting out the check book. Adobe's CS3 creative suite will be out next week, and it ain't gonna be cheap.
We probably should have realized something was up when Adobe's own document on Vista compatibility (which we wrote about almost a month ago) dodged the question by stating that Adobe would release free patches for "some of Adobe's currently available products." To our credit, it would have been much easier to spot if they'd said, "some of Adobe's currently available products, but not the ones anyone actually uses or cares about."
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Subscribe to commentsAdamMar 21st 2007 9:19AM
Mike - unfortunately most of the Adobe apps don't work on Linux. Unless you want to spend weeks playing with Wine etc to get something that might almost work now n then, Linux is still not an option if you need to use these apps professionally, particularly in a traditional creative work environment (trust me, I've spent a lot of time trying and still end up back on my XP laptop when I'm working at client offices)
DanMar 21st 2007 9:19AM
Mike, Linux is completely irrelevant to anyone wanting to run CS3! Anyway, in my opinion, Microsoft has changed the architecture or the OS so greatly that complete software rewrites are necessary, and I can't blame any company that wants to charge for basically a completely new product. The 'poorly' written argument against the charge please remember Microsoft encouraged writing software like this by designing such poor OS in the past. This is Adobe recognizing and telling the masses that Windows is not a great platform for their products, and probably other people's as well. Windows sucks.
benitojuarezMar 21st 2007 9:28AM
I think this says all that needs to be said.
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3978/forshameaa7.jpg
sighMar 21st 2007 9:30AM
I think this says all that needs to be said in response to this article.
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3978/forshameaa7.jpg
JoeyMar 21st 2007 9:54AM
I am so glad i switched to mac 2 years ago and i'll never go back to windows.. it is horrible...
DaveMar 21st 2007 10:04AM
Oh, it's just not a proper discussion unless some idiot suggests trying linux, is it. When are you linux fanboys gonna realise that 99% of us in a production environment can't go experimenting with linux because all the apps we use TO DO OUR JOBS are for Windows or Mac. Plus the I.T. department usually doesn't sanction I.T. experiments. Soooo tired of this.
paulMar 21st 2007 10:21AM
>I'm not trying to say that *all* software that
>needs admin rights is poorly written, but boy,
>there sure is a lot of abuse, and if Vista cuts
>back on that, I say more power to 'em.
A lot of that abuse came from following MS's example: their developer products in particular require Admin rights (some functions legitimately do, but Visual Studio is largely just a text editor: why didn't THEY fix it?) No one can say MS didn't have warning.
I've ported software to Vista too. Doing it "right" is beyond our resources at present; having everything run as Admin, while clunky, got us to the point we could start looking for stuff that didn't work or worked differently. It took a full day to figure out how to make a Vista manifest resource that worked and didn't crash XP (documented XP bug, well hidden on the MS site.)
Mac SpecMar 21st 2007 10:37AM
Oh wahhhh wahhhh "Adobe won't make a patch for Vista!" Please! Mac users have waited a YEAR for Intel native versions of CS.
LanceMar 21st 2007 11:58AM
I use Vista and all of the products in CS2 along with Dreamweaver, Flash. The only slightly annoying issue I run into is with Dreamweaver's drag to link to a file thingy in the properties area and it's really not that annoying. There are NO show stoppers for me with ANY of the above products.
It would probably cost Adobe MILLIONS of dollars to write patches for a completely new operating system and the current issues seem really minor at best. Non-story.
Lance
BobMar 21st 2007 11:02AM
@Mike (post# 9)
It's not clear to me why you would consider an Intel Mac a "whole new system" - while they do come bundled with OS X which is not offered by competitors, they are still built on Intel chipsets which are supported by any number of x86 operating systems including Ubuntu, XP, Vista etc, as well as virtualization solutions such as VMWare and Parallels.
http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/HOWTO
http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Dual_Booting
http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Triple_Boot_via_BootCamp_Ubuntu
DavidMar 21st 2007 12:52PM
Just curious, is there a pointer anywhere to the news mentioned in this post? Where/when did Adobe say this?
audreyMar 22nd 2007 12:10PM
For a great alternative to Adobe Photoshop, use the Gimp. http://www.gimp.org/
Free to download and use, works on multiple platforms; unix, windows and mac
BigWhiskyMar 21st 2007 2:37PM
I don't think this is as catestrophic as Grant Robertson make it out to be. First, the upgrades aren't that expensive. ($150-200 per product) So, if you're a professional, and you use these products, you're gonna need to upgrade them eventually anyway to keep compatible with the marketplace.
Besides if Adobe finally gets off their a$$ and puts out some 64 bit versions of their products (that works), it would be worth an upgrade just for that. I've been sitting on my windows64 install waiting for something from them for three years now.
Bottom line, if you use these for a living, you're gonna upgrade um anyway, and it really isn't that expensive. Vista is a major re-write, and so should the Adobe Products to get some benefit out of the upgrade.
B_W
p.s. can you run the same version of photoshop on OS9 and OSX? I don't know, it's just a thought.
AndyMar 21st 2007 4:30PM
While switching to a Mac is a good idea, it will NOT solve problems with current Macromedia/Adobe software, if the Macs are Intel.
It is hell using Flash and Dreamweaver (especially) on my Intel Mac at work. I cannot wait for the CS3 update!
Niraj SanghviMar 21st 2007 8:09PM
Just wait less than 6 months for the free online version of Photoshop to come out:
http://www.nirajsanghvi.com/stories.php?sid=455&tid=30
MelanieMar 21st 2007 11:37PM
they're idiots for doing that, they're probably cozying up with Apple - stupid move on their part
BarfHappyMar 22nd 2007 3:06AM
I don't see what the fuss is all about...
I tried CS2 on vista and it worked perfectly on my machine. Sure the interface is not Vista-style but who cares.
james 42Mar 22nd 2007 11:03AM
This has nothing to do with OS X vs. Windows. Nothing at all, anyone whining about that, please stop. This is Adobe's decision, and one (if true) that seems like a non-issue as many commentors confirm CS2 runs OK on Vista.
Gimp is not a Photoshop replacement. It may work if you are a photographer, but not for graphic or web designers. Don't waste your time. InkScape, on the other hand, looks pretty good so far, though I have used only casually.
I like Download Squad, but as many of the comments in too many of the recent posts indicate, there has been a recent spike in the FUD that you have been posting. Clean it up, now.
TimothyMar 25th 2007 3:55PM
This may be the first widening crack in Microsoft's armor - Let's face it - if you use XP, and depend on Adobe software then there is even less reason to upgrade to Vista.