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Vista won't get Visual Studio Express
To avoid possible anti-trust allegations again, Microsoft will not bundle VS Express or any of the other express products with Vista when it ships. There are rumors that OEMs may want to include it later, but nothing is for sure right now. Microsoft will leave the bundling to HP, Dell, and others to add in great free products like VS Express, and other express products (I imagine this means SQL Server Express, Visual Web Developer Express). Anyone that really wants any of the Express editions can just download them, but Microsoft's objective is to get more developers interested in their products than just people coming to their sites. These products are great stuff, so I can see why.
[Via eWeek]
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Subscribe to commentsshadekhAug 15th 2006 10:59AM
I remember when i was a virtual newbie to coding, and i absolutely loved VS.net which was released, to the death. With msdn installed, i have yet to see any app as powerful and as user friendly as VS. I don't use MS products often, but it does not shame me to say that VS2005 is one program i cannot live without.
VStudio is fantastic for newbies, with its graphical interface and easy to use Vbasic as a default language. For pros, its about as powerful as they come. MSdn, if installed, gives a whole new dimension to this stuff. And sql server is extremely convenient during the learning phase and all, specially the easy to use express edition.
Its a pity its not being included. Having them would provide a great resource for even caual users, especially with some form of msdn.
RichardAug 15th 2006 12:00PM
But it will still be a free download along with the XNA express that is coming out this fall
Textbook CaseAug 15th 2006 12:49PM
Thank goodness someone's looking out for me and keeping MS from including this with Vista. Apparently including a programming tool would instantly wipe MacOS and the dozens of Linux distributions right of the shelves. Phew, that was close.
nalgaeAug 15th 2006 1:25PM
Indeed, these programs are worse than IE. My grandma would start programming in VS express and would never ever try any other programs, or even J2EE! To think of the millions of consumers just like here that would be lured in my Microsoft's monopoly of the programming field!
Jeffrey McManusAug 15th 2006 1:40PM
I have to say, I can't see the value of bundling. Developers know where to go to download the tools, and for the other 98% of the world, bundling is just going to add another layer of cruft onto an already bloated system.
That said, the Express tools are terrific and getting them out there is a good thing. They just don't need to be dumped onto every $299 Wal-mart box in the world.
QwfwqAug 15th 2006 7:58PM
I have to agree that not bundling these tools is not particularly detrimental as long as they remain free. It is however ironic to see that Microsoft has to take these steps to avoid monopoly acusations when Apple and the Linux distributions can get away with bundling almost everything but the kitchen sink. Oh well, it must be karma.
In the end I think that this actually suits Microsoft better, as it can continue to implement its dreadful WGA program.